scna112.htm: Stonehenge Campaign Newsletter Winter 2001
25oct2001 : deadline for the december newsletter
is Wed 5th December at our Torrianno meeting.
Below here is some of the emails about when is decememberer solstice!
20dec2001 - I'm in my bus at the track by stonehenge
a day early waiting for the newsletters
and a disk with the contents for me to paste into this webapge
from [email protected].
heres stuff I (dicegeorge) emailed to them...
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Autumn Equinox 2001
===== Stonehenge Autumn Equinox 2001 =====
A hundredish of us gathered in the Stones for dawn.
- Sun 23 September 6a.m. (ish) Autumn Equinox
~ cloudy ~ no sunrise at Stonehenge ~ 100ish of us gathered, wishing Peace on the world,
mindful of the troubles in New York and Afghanistan...
~ A Druid (Lady of the Blue Ford) proclaimed:
Mighty Mother of us all
Mother of all fruitfulness
By bud and stem and flower and fruit
By Life and Love and all growing things
Do thou descend into our midst at harvest time
And bring forth Nature's Bounty.
So too, fortify our hearts
For the winter that is to come.
And nurture the seeds of new life
Deep within the earth.
So Mote it be
~ Another said : May all beings have happiness,
and the causes of happiness...
(more to be emailed here soon (please))
~ It was a bit too predestined and churchy and
druidy for me,
but afterwards we milled around, chatted, and I jammed tinwhistle
with three drummers, I stuck 'No-ones Slave' tune over the rhythms,
and a few more rainbowy tunes,
remembering our VE Day music 1995.
- Please dont let them bulldoze a road trench through the
Stonehenge archeology
- Wed 07 November 2001 8pm Stonehenge Campaign meeting at 99 Torriano Av, Kentish Town, London
- Wed 05 December 2001 8pm Stonehenge Campaign meeting at 99 Torriano Av, Kentish Town, London
- December 2001: Sat 22nd Stonehenge Winter Solstice sunrise
(not the 23rd - error in newsletter - sorry!)
- Wed 06 February 2002 8pm Stonehenge Campaign meeting at 99 Torriano Av, Kentish Town, London
- Wed 06 March 2002: 8pm Stonehenge Campaign meeting at 99 Torriano Av, Kentish Town, London. We heard that:
- Wed 20 March Equinox: h19:16
- http://www.earthsite.org/ed2002.htm Earth Day 2002 Nature's day all over the world. Wednesday, March 20, 2002
http://www.earthsite.org/ed2002.htm
- Wed 20 or Thu 21 March 2002 Spring Equinox - sunrise 6.a.m ish local time east of Stonehenge. Check on Foot and Mouth disease developments before deciding
whether or not to go to Stonehenge
- Saturday 23rd March 2002 Tribal Voices + S.C. Benefit Gig @
Glastonbury Assembly Rooms
- Sunday 24 March 2001 2-5pm free
Stonehenge Talking Circle in Glastonbury Assembly Rooms
- Wed 03 April 2002 8pm Stonehenge Campaign meeting at 99 Torriano Av, Kentish Town, London
bits
Saturday 23rd March 2002 Tribal Voices + S.C. Benefit Gig @ Glastonbury Assembly Rooms
Sunday 24 March 2001 2-5pm free Stonehenge Talking Circle in Glastonbury Assembly Rooms
George Firsoff's stonehngepeace egroup is worth jooining
see the stonehengepeace egroup for more chat!
www.dicenews.com/stonehenge
brianpoem
From: [email protected]
Date: 11 December 2001 09:23
Our planet is turning,
on its path around the sun.
Earth mother is calling,
her children home.
Light is returning,
even in our darkest hour,
No one can hold
back the dawn.
Keep it burning,
keep this flame of hope alive,
As we journey together
through the storm.
---- a rainbow camp fire song
for hanukah that moves my heart --
www.PartyForPeace.org
cdroms
From: "Andy Burnham"
To: ; ; ; ;
Subject: [stonehengepeace] Announcing three new megalithic CD-ROMs and a competition to win all of them
Date: 13 December 2001 00:43
[Apologies for cross-posting...]
I have an amazing bit of news - announcing not two, but three new megalithic
CD-ROMs, and a competition to win all of them!
Avebury Panoramic Tour by Pete Glastonbury
------------------------------------------
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/shop/avebury.htm
A unique new CD-ROM including over 180 full screen Panoramic scenes covering
all of the Avebury complex and beyond, including most of the megalithic
sites in the region.
Using hot spot links you can travel all along the Kennett Avenue to the
Sanctuary from the comfort of your own home via your PC. Take a virtual tour
along the Beckhampton Avenue to the most recent excavations at the
Longstones Field in August 2000. View Silbury Hill from various vantage
points around the landscape, including unique video footage and details of
the latest repairs and restorations. Also: local barrows tour, lost stone
circles, Stanton Drew, the Rollright Stones, Devils Quoits, Stonehenge and
the surrounding barrows. Dozens of the Cotswold-Severn Chambered Tombs
including the magnificent Stoney Littleton in Somerset.
If that wasn't enough the CD-ROM also includes a mass of hard-to-obtain
archive material: Black & white photos from 1870 onwards including Alexander
Keillers restorations in the 1920's. Most of John Aubrey's Book 'Monumenta
Britannica' and William Stukeley's Book 'Abury' in PDF format plus over 350
rare antiquarian prints, photos and woodcuts.
==========================================================================
'Irish Genius' Megalithic Ireland by Anthony Weir
-------------------------------------------------
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/shop/irish_genius.htm
A CD-ROM with over 600 images of prehistoric tombs, stone circles,
standing-stones, sweathouses, cross-pillars, cross-slabs, ogam stones,
bullauns and phallic pillars PLUS megaliths in France (beyond Brittany) and
mediaeval exhibitionist carvings.
Anthony writes: The core of this CD is the gazetteer of Irish megaliths,
enveloped by pages which put the types of monument into context. Most Irish
guides concentrate on the passage-tombs of counties Meath and Sligo, and
give no idea of the variety of Irish field monuments all over the island,
nor of their sculptural beauty and the beauty of their locations. Leave the
banalised tourist routes for a quieter, more hidden Ireland away from the
coasts, famous passage-tombs & monastic cites.
The result of over 30 years of research in the field by Anthony Weir, poet
and author of "Early Ireland, a Field Guide", and "Images of Lust: sexual
carvings in mediaeval churches"
==========================================================================
Stone Circles QTVR by Tom Bullock
---------------------------------
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/shop/stone_circles_qtvr.htm
As a preview to the next version of his Stone Circles CD-ROM, Tom has put
together a special QTVR (Quicktime Virtual Reality) edition.
Tom writes: this new CD-ROM is a stand-alone presentation of stone circles
in the British Isles. It contains Panoramic movies of over 80 stone circles
distributed throughout Britain and Ireland, as well as descriptions and
important features of each. Below each movie is a static panoramic image of
the circle, from which the movie was originally made. There is a good
mixture of well known and usually inaccessible sites that I have made
special arrangements to visit.
Each page includes details and a brief guide to the site. WWW links to Andy
Burnham's Megalithic Portal are included for further research and updates.
There is an excellent upgrade offer for purchasers of Tom's previous
CD-ROM.
==========================================================================
Each of the CD-ROMs are different in style, but all contain stunning
photographic work and years of distilled effort by the respective authors.
True labours of love, each.
The authors are all looking for retail stockists. Contact us for trade
pricing. If you are a museum or similar outlet, we challenge you to put
something intelligent in your gift shop for a change!
==========================================================================
Other new products at megalithic.co.uk include
* A new range of hand-made silk scarves with Pictish designs
* Stonehenge kits you construct with real stone - 'Stonecraft'
* More books, including the excellent 'Rock Around the Peak' Derbyshire
stones guide by Victoria and Paul Morgan
==========================================================================
Submit your comments and photos to the Megalithic Portal
--------------------------------------------------------
http://www.megalithic.co.uk
We now have almost 500 images of megalithic and other prehistoric sites from
all over Europe, stretching as far as Malta and Tunisia contributed by our
regulars and other visitors. Lots more arrive weekly. Add this to the
hundreds of photos in the main Portal 'Photo Pages' and you have a unique
storehouse of information of many hundreds of megabytes. The VRs on the
CD-ROMs above add another dimension to this archive.
We're becoming the site of choice for photo editors looking for images of
ancient Britain - all enquiries are passed on straight away to the
photographer, with no commission involved.
==========================================================================
Competition
-----------
The biggest prize we've ever put together:
Three complete sets of these:
Pete Glastonbury's Avebury Panoramic Tour
Anthony Weir's 'Irish Genius' Megalithic Ireland
Tom Bullock's Stone Circles Tour CD-ROM
Tom Bullock's Stone Circles QTVR CD-ROM
Rock Around the Peak Book by Victoria and Paul Morgan
Avebury by Evelyn Francis Book
Stonehenge by Robin Heath Book
Together this prize is worth almost £100 ($140) and we're giving away three
sets in total. I'll try and get signed copies for as many as I can too.
To enter the competition, answer the following question by replying to this
e-mail:
Name any contributor to the Megalithic portal eGallery at
http://www.megalithic.co.uk (not including me!) The closing date is the 26th
December 2001 and winners will be notified then. We respect your privacy and
do not pass on e-mail addresses to anyone else. If you do not wish to
receive occasional updates and offers please let me know.
That's me done (and 'done in' too I think!) - have a good New Year from all
of us!
Cheers,
Andy
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o Megalithic Portal http://www.megalithic.co.uk
o Megalithic Shop http://www.megalithic.co.uk/shop
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* For Christmas, please order 2-3 days in advance of last posting days which
are:
UK: 21st Dec (we send out 1st class)
W Europe: 14th December
USA: Last airmail date was 7th December, sorry, however Tom Bullock ships
his CD-ROMs to US destinations from California. We will do our best to ship
to you ASAP.
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equinox
Sun 23 September 6a.m. (ish) Autumn Equinox
~ cloudy ~ no sunrise at Stonehenge
~ 100ish of us gathered, wishing Peace on the world,
mindful of the troubles in New York and Afghanistan...
~ A Druid (Lady of the Blue Ford) proclaimed:
Mighty Mother of us all
Mother of all fruitfulness
By bud and stem and flower and fruit
By Life and Love and all growing things
Do thou descend into our midst at harvest time
And bring forth Nature's Bounty.
So too, fortify our hearts
For the winter that is to come.
And nurture the seeds of new life
Deep within the earth.
So Mote it be
~ Another said :
May all beings have happiness,
and the causes of happiness...
firsoff-festival
From: "George Firsoff"
To:
Subject: Re: [stonehengepeace] request for information
Date: 26 October 2001 23:48
Our pages and the various links at:
http:/www.greenleaf.demon.co.uk should be consulted
Any seasonal cvelebration is known as a "festival"
However there are historical and political reasons to avoid that word!
When you understand why, you will have perceived a great deal, about the
volatile nature of what has happened and is now happening. What I mean
by that, is there is not a steady traditional practise that goes on year
after year, but an evolving opportunity that is going onwards to an
unknown outcome...
In message <[email protected].
edu>, Curler, Katie M writes
>I am a university student preparing to write my senior thesis concerning the
>summer solstice at Stonehenge and the different groups of people who travel
>there to celebrate. I was wondering if anyone who has attended that
>festival could tell me a bit more about the worship and other celebratory
>practices that go on there. I am interested in all the different factions
>of people who attend the festival and their different activities or beliefs
>concerning Stonehenge. Any information you could give me would undoubtedly
>be helpful. Thank you.
>
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g-karelia
Dear Stonehengles,
sorry about my mistoke in our September Newsletter: winter solstice sunrise is probably Saturday 22nd December, (not 23rd.)
But some argue for Friday 21st sunrise, or sunset - when, if you stand in the Avenue looking over the Helestone at Stonehenge you'd see the sun set dead centre over the Stones. Midwinter solstice sunset is opposite Midsummer solstice sunrise, as can be seen from a three dimensional model of the planets (if you believe in Kepler's epicycles)
The builders of Stonenge didn't have digital watches. I think they stuck sticks in the circular bank in the direction of sunrises and sunsets. Each morning the stick would be a bit further than the day before, until one day the direction changed. The stick of the day before was the furthest, whereat the sun's motion stopped, or stuck, from the latin 'sol' for sun and 'stickere' to stick. (ish).
I've been cycling up and down the Fosse Way, a long straight track that was here in Somerset long before the Romans came. There are wooded hillforts at the heights along it.
The countryside is now the inverse of what it was when the earthworks were built and the Fosse Way cut: then the low land was wild wooded, the heights cleared. Perhaps they'd leave some trees for lookouts, or build their own huge wooden structures, as at Woodhenge, (from whereup Stonehenge could be seen, (and in which they'd be warm and dry in Britain's dark wet winters)).
Some classify societies/cultures as somewhere on a line between Law->Chaos, Slavery->Freedom, Conservatism->Fashions, but I think of that line as the base of a triangle at the top of which is Art. The pyramids were safe tombs for dead kings, St Pauls is a huge dry space where masses can sing to the glory of their Church, but Stonehenge is a mystery, a great work of art.
[email protected] 07970-378-572
jaide
From: [email protected]
Date: 12 September 2001 07:19
Hi all......
I am SOOOOOO grateful and thankful to have had the opportunity to be "retransformed" and to be able to feel the experience bestowed upon me at the Summer Solstice at Stonehenge this summer. More people should be able to have the freedom to experience this magic and a sense of "belonging". Being from America, I'm having a hard time understanding this level of hatred directed at our innocent families today, and have concern over being able to duplicate that magic once again.
Jaide/USA
*********************
jenny
From:
To:
Subject: Re: [stonehengepeace] Re: [Plinkers] Fw: Stonehenge 2.11 Counter-Protest
Date: 06 November 2001 17:02
>Not -somebody- called Carlyon, was it by any chance?
It was. She has managed to (1) give him more publicity than
he deserves, (2) detract from the serious work that many people are
doing on 'sacred sites' issues and (3) make pagans and those with a
spiritual interest in sites look pretty silly generally. Some people
are now trying to do damage-control on the Britarch list and
elsewhere.
Among those pagans I know, most don't like the tunnel idea, some see
it as a necessary evil to get some sense of sanity around Stonehenge,
some are trying to discuss it within a more general debate about how
to move people from A to B without creating further road congestion
and pollution. But nobody has seen it as something 'good' - except
this one 'technopagan' who described the proposed cut-and-cover
tunnel as giving people a taste of 'a longbarrow experience' whatever
that means - on Britarch list.
Jenny
>In message <[email protected]>, Robin Pender
> writes
>>Dear All
>>
>>I was following this thread on the symbolstone.org mailing list a couple of
>>weeks
>>ago, she is up in arms about another strange character who was planning a
>>cursing
>>ceremony at stonehenge against the bypass. I'll dig it all out if
>>you're really
>>that bothered- this other fellow sounds definitely dodgy!
>>She has a website at www.technopagans.co.uk if you want to know
>>more about her
> >
>>
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stone-sounds
From: "Andy Burnham"
Subject: [stonehengepeace] Time for our favourite sport - slag off the TV prog!
Date: 12 November 2001 23:24
Did you see Monday's Secrets of the Dead -'Sounds of the Stone Age' TV
programme on Channel 4 (UK). What did you think of it?
Most of it wouldn't be news to keen Radio 4 listeners. The dust patterns
showing up standing waves in the Newgrange chamber is fascinating but I
question the sound pressure levels you would need (enourmous!) and the
sustained (very even) resonance required allow the effect to build up.
Overall an excellent programme though, they even got most of the sound
concepts correct and well explained. The archaeology will be more
controversial but well researched - Mr Deverux's hand at work I think. We
got some Richard Bradley and Barbara Bender (she was mostly edited out I
guess!) but there could have been more. And at least they didn't repeat the
reconstructions over and over too much.
This is an area I've been following for a few years as one of my
professional interests is acoustics.
I've put together a list of resources - books, articles, sounds etc here
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/links.php?op=viewslink&sid=29
Cheers,
Andy
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whoopie
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: When is the winter solstice?
Date: 15 November 2001 17:59
if on the other hand this 'mystical' mumbo jumbo I believe is all a
load of bollux and really the only reason we get in is because of the
tireless work of a small but dedicated band of people who continue to
seek meaningfull consultation with EH..... I guess they deserve a big
thanks....
actually I think the 'negotiators' deserve a big thanks just for
trying, even if it's nothing to do with them and the stones do decide
who gets in
at least they try and in a 'positive' manner
so......
thankyou georgeFirsoff and all you who try to talk to these people who
believe they 'own' the stones.... can't be an easy task....
whoopsie lampa
servant of the garden
--- In stonehengepeace@y..., "Whoopsie Lampa"
wrote:
>
> Judith wrote: I have heard that Stonehenge is closed on those days?
>
>
> whoopsie: not wishing to offend george who is a great believer in
> negotiating with english heritage...... but don't you worry about
it
> being closed...... they open it for the children of the stones, one
> way or another LOL (sorry george but I just can't get my head
round
> it being anything to do with english heritage.. )
> Le me say, I apreciate the efforts at mediation that many of you
> make..... but for me it is the 'stones' who decide who gets in...
not
> english heritage, me, or you...... if they let us approach it is an
> honour afforded to us by the stones themselves.... not anything to
do
> with english heritage
>
> whoopsie lampa
> servant of the garden
>
> --- In stonehengepeace@y..., "Judith Prueitt" wrote:
> > :
> > >
> > > 1. Re: When is the winter solstice?
> > > From: Robin Pender
> >
> > will anyone be doing a Solstice get together on the 21 of DEC?
> > if so where. I have heard that Stonehenge is closed on those
days?
> >
> > judith/|\
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Happy New Age! [george]
when is winter solstice 2001???
From: "Toby Evans"
To:
Subject: Re: [Guilfin] GuilFin's #2.33 Something For the Weekend
Date: 25 October 2001 09:01
tch!
not a precise science, is it!
can't you look down a stone or something?
I've changed it to a 2 day event ...
are you going to Zion Train at Glastonbury?
Hawkwind/Greasy Truckers were *excellent* ...
ttfn
T
Quoting "george [email protected]"
:
> winter solstice sun rise
> is probably sat 22nd not friday 21st
> as you say
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~ george ~~ http://www.dicenews.com ~
> ~ Stonehenge Campaign~~ Tribal Voices ~
> www.phreak.co.uk/stonehenge/psb/george.htm
> ~~~~~~~~~ [email protected] ~
> ~~~~~~~~ (emails collected weeklyish) ~
> ~ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dicenews
> (if after 7pm I'll phone you back cheaprate)
> ~ orange phone 07970 378572 ~ george ~
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> >
>
> >
> > *December-01*
> > 21/12/2001: Winter Solstice ;
> > more/latest info at
> >
http://www.guilfin.net/database/showevent.php3?ev_id=evINET8
87
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Toby Evans
www.guilfin.net
07092 238392
From: "Paul Aitken"
To:
Subject: Re: Is Winter Solstice Sunrise on 21st or 22nd December 2001?
Date: 18 July 2001 23:44
george [email protected] wrote:
>
> dear paul,
> what do you think of the following conundrum ive found...
>
> Is Astronomical solstice is 8.19pm on Friday 21st Decemeber?
No, it is 19.18 - 7.18 pm.
> Can someone check this in an almanac or computer please?
>
> Stonehenge Avenue was built pointing at Summer solstice sunrise,
> when the sun rises South East.
You have your ups and downs sideways here - North East.
>
> At Equinox it rises East.
>
> At Winter Solstice North East.
South East
>
> I define Winter Solstice Sunrise as the sunrise
> when the sun rises northest.
>
> Therefore, assuming astronomical solstice is at 8.18pm Friday,
It isn't but,
> then if sunrise is before 8.18 then Saturday is Solstice,
> if it rises after 8.18a.m. then Friday is Solstice sunrise.
if it were, this would be correct for the 'northest' rise.
This is the reasoning we have been using for 'solstice sunrise' dates.
It is a secular view. Religious groups and perhaps the builders could
have other criteria than 'northest' sunrise. For example many cultures
had ceremonies at the winter solstice to reflect or assist the death
of the old sun/king/god/year (enter priests, fear and negative waves).
They would be interested in the 'southest' sunSET. Then there might/not
be an inter-regnum non-day (or 2 in a leap year) to make 364 from
365+1/4.
Then they might celebrate the birth of the new sun/king/god/year at
the sunrise, which would no longer be the 'southest'.
> At what latitude is sunrise 12 hours away from astronomical solstice?
Sunrise is 8.16 at the Stones, ie 11 hrs after sunrise and 13 hrs
before the next (22nd). Sunrise time does vary with latitude. but more
so with longitude.
> North of this latitude solstice sunrise will be Friday,
> south of that latitude solstice sunrise will be saturday.
Hence if solstice were halfway between 2 sunrises, 'northest' is Friday
east of stones, Saturday west of.
There is no real conundrum, it is due to having a spinning planet with
an arbitary Greenwich meridian and international date line. Any event,
astronomical or otherwise,is perceived as happening at different times
in different places. So Lennon was shot on the 8th Dec in US, but on
9th Dec here.
> Please comment, supply data and reasoning,
(marks will be deducted for incorrect spelling and grammar)
> this is a draft of a future article for stonehenge newsletter
> and the web - but i'd like to get the facts right,
> and the arguments sussed!
>
> george.
>
> PS if its cloudy the solstice is the other day.
Unless there is a procession order on the other day.
P.A.
From: "Paul Aitken"
To: "DG6"
Subject: epeace post
Date: 25 September 2001 02:02
Agreed that night of 21/22 is 3 seconds longer than 20/21, but it is a
myth that the longest day and night coincide with the solstices, other
than roughly. Parallax and other considerations mean that sunsets
getting later and sunrises getting earlier 9and vice-versa) do not
exactly track each other on the same time curve. As you often say, they
didn't have digital watches, so that was not the builder's concern.
'Northest' sunrise is 129.382356 deg azimuth on 21st, 129.381810 on
22nd. [clockwise from south]
P.A.
From: "Paul Aitken"
To: "DG6"
Subject: epeace post
Date: 23 September 2001 22:02
We discussed the winter solstice date earlier, but looking at my reply
there was garble gorble in a crucial paragraph. 'Northest' sunrise is
Friday. All requoted with correction below:
> what do you think of the following conundrum ive found...
>
> Is Astronomical solstice is 8.19pm on Friday 21st Decemeber?
No, it is 19.18 - 7.18 pm.
> Can someone check this in an almanac or computer please?
>
> Stonehenge Avenue was built pointing at Summer solstice sunrise,
> when the sun rises South East.
You have your ups and downs sideways here - North East.
>
> At Equinox it rises East.
>
> At Winter Solstice North East.
South East
>
> I define Winter Solstice Sunrise as the sunrise
> when the sun rises northest.
>
> Therefore, assuming astronomical solstice is at 8.18pm Friday,
It isn't but,
> then if sunrise is before 8.18 then Saturday is Solstice,
> if it rises after 8.18a.m. then Friday is Solstice sunrise.
if it were, this would be correct for the 'northest' rise.
This is the reasoning we have been using for 'solstice sunrise' dates.
It is a secular view. Religious groups and perhaps the builders could
have other criteria than 'northest' sunrise. For example many cultures
had ceremonies at the winter solstice to reflect or assist the death
of the old sun/king/god/year (enter priests, fear and negative waves).
They would be interested in the 'southest' sunSET. Then there might/not
be an inter-regnum non-day (or 2 in a leap year) to make 364 from
365+1/4.
Then they might celebrate the birth of the new sun/king/god/year at
the sunrise, which would no longer be the 'southest'.
> At what latitude is sunrise 12 hours away from astronomical solstice?
[CORRECTED PARAGRAPH :] * * * * * * *
Sunrise is 8.16 at the Stones, ie 11 hrs before solstice on 21st, which
is 13 hrs before the next sunrise (22nd). Sunrise time does vary with
latitude. but more so with longitude.
> North of this latitude solstice sunrise will be Friday,
> south of that latitude solstice sunrise will be saturday.
Hence if solstice were halfway between 2 sunrises, 'northest' is Friday
east of stones, Saturday west of.
There is no real conundrum, it is due to having a spinning planet with
an arbitary Greenwich meridian and international date line. Any event,
astronomical or otherwise,is perceived as happening at different times
in different places. So Lennon was shot on the 8th Dec in US, but on
9th Dec here.
> Please comment, supply data and reasoning,
(marks will be deducted for incorrect spelling and grammar)
> this is a draft of a future article for stonehenge newsletter
> and the web - but i'd like to get the facts right,
> and the arguments sussed!
>
> george.
>
> PS if its cloudy the solstice is the other day.
Unless there is a procession order on the other day.
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Here's a flyer for the Glastonbury meeting,you may notice that it's similar to last years, and the year befores,
some of the wallpaper paste still shows through the photoshopping!
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The Stonehenge Campaign c/o 99 Torriano Av London NW5 2RX
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